What Broke 4E (OP by Zardnaar)
The following is my opinion
on the main reasons why 4E broke.
What follows is a tremendous amount
of bullshit. Pretty much like every post Zardnaar has made. What’s sad is that
this thread has 2,712 fucking posts in it!!!
[Any] How is D&D tacitly unrealistic (e.g. breaks the laws
of physics)? (OP by Seroster)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa
PC's plan is awesome but stupid - should I let it succeed? (OP
by EvilSchemer)
The plan requires
several things to happen in order:
Doesn’t matter what the plan
requires, and you’re asking the wrong question. It’s not up to you, as GM, to
let the plan succeed or not. It’s up to you to adjudicate the rules required
and let the plan unfold as it unfolds. If it works, yay for the players. If it
doesn’t, that’s how it goes sometimes.
My dilemma as DM now
is this: Should I allow the plan to mostly succeed?
As I said, that’s not up to you.
And if you think it is, you need to step back and ponder if you should be
running games or writing stories.
Let me be more clear
- would you make the PC roll to succeed/fail - thus possibly discouraging
out-of-the-box planning in the future? Or would you hand-wave and let it ride
because it's a wacky plan?
Yes, I’d make them roll. If I were
running a game that used rolls for those things. If you don’t want to leave it
up to the dice, don’t use a game that leaves shit like that up to the fucking
dice. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some people to get. But more
importantly, if having to make the necessary checks to see if it works
discourages your players from out-of-the-box planning, YOU NEED BETTER PLAYERS.
This case is
especially tricky because:
No, it really, really isn’t.
Reply by Swamplor:
Only read the thread
title.
Answer: Yes.
Fuck off.
This is where
people's feedback is helping me plan. My natural tendency is to make some die
rolls magically "succeed" in order to allow a crazy plan to succeed.
Then what you need isn’t feedback
from the forums; it’s to stop, stand back and examine your flaws as a GM.
G1? Best module ever? Whaaaa? (OP by GamrGirlSue*)
Oldest? Sure.
Classic. Yes, definitely. Best? You gotta be kidding me.
Oh my gosh, people have different
opinions about things?!?!?!
*I’m still uncertain, based on GGS’
38 posts, whether or not they are a gamer, a girl, or a Sue. Because most of
their posts are pretty mellow but blatant trolling.
How do you want the forthcoming Middle Earth D&D rules
handled? (OP by vivsavage)
Huh. I didn’t even know this was a
thing. As for the question, I have no idea.
I need help killing a vampie party member D&D (OP by
DerpyTurtle)
So, there is a
vampire that had joined our group after I bought him as a slave. He later then
turned me into his own vampire slave. And then another party member knocked out
the vampire and ripped a chunk of him out so that I could drink his blood to
become free of his control.
Fastforward and I
started creating a city. My old slave/master then asks for a huge fancy
building to be built in my city eevn though he had done nothing for me but turn
me to his slave. He had even called ME his right hand man! Evn though I wanted
nothing to do with him. Because he had drained me of my blood and that we had
to force him to let me free of his control. Also, our DM had said that while he
dosnt have control of me that he can still controll my vampire slaves which can
be a huge problem since vampires will be the majority of my city.
So I want to kill
him for turning me, disobeying his slave master because he sucked my blood, for
sayying that I was his right hand man, that he deserved a spectacular house in
my city, and that he can cause choas if he told my vampires the right things.
Anyway, he dosnt
know that I had made a wish for me and my vampires to be able to enter any
buildings since vampires normally need permission and since im a thief. He made
a wish for when he dies that he dosnt need a coffin to regenerate back to life.
So I was planning on having either me or a vampire slave stab him in the heart
with a wooden steak in his sleep but im not entirly sure how I could lure him
to his second home and kill him, any ideas or help you guys can provide? Any
other murder attempt ideas? Btw because of dm trying to make vampires just fair
somewhat, light dosnt kill, garlic has no effect, we cant cross flowing
streams, no stat bonuses and I beilieve thats all. Thanks! (Sorry if that was
long) (We use a mix of editions)
Nope. You’re on your own for this
one.
[5E] Ammo (OP by Norrec)
Once he realized the
flaw in his build the player decided he'd just buy bucket loads of ammo.
They're fairly cheap and don't weigh much.
This made me
realize... well the systems not really worth it, is it? If you've got three
spears that you throw tracking them makes sense. If you have 200 arrows
tracking them suddenly seems pointless. However I don't want to toss ammo out
the window completely. It's likely at points in this campaign the party will be
in 'survival mode', meaning no easy access to shops and blacksmiths. Food/water
I don't bother with because if food/water is a problem then it's because it's a
Serious Problem. Serious enough that saying you have a Food Ration isn't enough
to solve it ("Ok, that gets you past breakfast. Now it's dinnertime. And
what about the next month?"). I'm really hesitant to give up ammo
completely.
I’d say either track the ammo
specifically or don’t track it at all. I’m not a fan of the assorted roll a
die, ix x then you’re out. That’s not how people track their ammo. But since you specifically call out that they
will be in “survival mode”, then IMO you should absolutely track ammo down to
the last bolt, and that includes trying to reclaim used bolts and everything.
Ammo is a balance to being able to
kill things from a distance.
By Vaalingrade:
My problem with
tracking ammo is the fact that it penalizes ranged builds. No one runs out of
sword and in 5e, you don't run out of magic either, so ranged builds are the only
ones who can be rendered useless by means of logistics.
It’s almost like ammo is a trade
off in that you don’t have to run up to the creature to kill it . . .
By Deliverator:
The problem with
that argument, Sensei, is the third category: casters. They can both stay at
range and never run out of ammo (cantrips).
Sounds like the problem there is
with casters, not ammo.
From Arilou:
D&D's hit points
system really breaks down when it comes to ranged weapons, honestly. You can
kind of argue about hit points representing stamina, etc. for melee combat, but
when it comes to ranged combat it gets... weird. "Well, I miss him 9 times
but the 10th exhausts his reserves and he dies" just feels weird.
Melee-wise you can fluff it as parrying, feinting, etc. but with ranged weapons
taht either means you really only fire very rarely or you miss a lot.
Once again, as with every time,
your lack of comprehension and imagination isn’t a problem with the fucking
game.
[Savage Worlds] [Rifts] Savage Rifts!
Every single thing I’ve read about
this so far tells me that, for all of the many, many issues I have with the
Palladium system, I’d hate this one even more.
Juicers, by their
very nature, are the candles that burn twice as bright, but half as long. This wasn't addressed mechanically in the
original game,
Uh, yeah, it was. In more than one
place. With surprisingly extensive rules. If you’re that ignorant of the source material, you should probably hush
about this subject.
I hope that people have fun with
this, but from everything available so far, this conversion fails to capture Rifts on all levels.
How stressful is GMing for you? (OP by hyphz)
Not very. And if someone finds it
to be particularly stressful, I’d recommend that they step back and take a
break. Hobbies shouldn’t stress you out.
Why not simply copy a tattoo map? (OP by jasin)
Someone more
practical asked why not simply copy the map.
So what are some
fun, engaging, weird reasons why that's not feasible, or in any case less
feasible than having along a recent enemy/untrustworthy ally?
I wouldn’t bother to come up with a
reason. I’d think copying it was a great idea. And then someone else might use
the map on the character to seek out the treasure/object/etc. If you don’t want
anyone else getting their hands on the map, well, there are solutions . . .
It has come up,
naturally, but we're largely trying to play the heroes here
Well, so much for some of those
solutions . . .
More prosaically -
the person in question flat out refuses to let you copy the map and insists on
going to the destination with the party.
If the party aren't
evil they should hopefully respect this and not just knock her out and copy it
anyway.
What if they’re neutral?
I'm uncomfortable
with how many replies in this thread deal with this character like property,
and assume the party will do so unless they have ample reason to.
That’s nice.
Right. Especially in
light of the threads about sexism in gaming, I'm really uncomfortable with the
idea that people would sit there and roleplay either murdering and skinning, or
forcibly stripping and fully shaving, a prisoner. The OP specified that the
group are at least trying to be heroes - which I would have hoped would be
sufficient indication to subsequent posters that these kinds of abuses would be
out of character - but in any case, I would quit any group which was OK with
going through with such a scenario.
And for you, also, that’s nice. Some
people aren’t meant for some tables.
